BY THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN | LAST UPDATED: JUL 5, 2016 – 10:20:47 AM
[Editor’s note: The following article contains excerpts from radio station Hot 105.1 FM’s The Breakfast Club interview with the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan by hosts DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God and Angela Yee, which aired on Tuesday, May 24, 2016.]
In The Name of Allah, The Beneficent, The Merciful.
DJ ENVY: It’s DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God: We are The Breakfast Club. And we have a special, special guest on The Breakfast Club this morning.
CHARLAMAGNE: That’s right! The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan has returned to The Breakfast Club. How are you, young man?
The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan (HMLF): You started it off good! (Smile.) The old man is doing fine… I’m very glad to be here with you. I came, really, to express my gratitude to you, and to DJ Envy and to Angela, for the privilege of being on The Breakfast Club that really helped the Minister reach young people that made 10.10.15 successful. I didn’t want you to come to where I was. I wanted to come and be with you where you are most comfortable to say thank you.
DJ ENVY: Now last time that you came, we were talking about The March, we were gearing up for the 20th anniversary of the Million Man March last October. So now The March happened, what do you think about The March and the turnout?
HMLF: The turnout was great considering that we had no mainstream media helping us. But the media that really helped us was social media, and stations like yours; and the talk began to get so great, and the young people showed up in great numbers at 10.10.15, and The Movement that began is now jumping. We asked for “10,000 Fearless,” and 8,000 or more have signed up that want to come into the hood and present our bodies to stand in between the guns and the gangs, and let’s see if we can resolve some of the conflict, create employment for our young people, and then take control of where we live.
CHARLAMAGNE: Let’s talk about some current events, Brother Minister, because people are under the impression that you endorsed Donald Trump for president.
HMLF: When a man refuses to take money from those who give money to politicians, you don’t pay the piper and sit back and let somebody else call the tune. So I thought Mr. Trump going right to members of the Jewish community and telling them, “I don’t need your money and I don’t want your money,” meant to me that he would be free enough to work for the good of America. I applauded him for that. Of course things change, and he’s looking for some money now. He’s looking for $1 billion, and he doesn’t want to put that up, so he’s looking to some of those who traditionally support politicians to have their way. I was on radio in Chicago [WVON interview, Dec. 11, 2015], and I was talking about Mr. Trump and certain things he was saying, that he wanted to go into Iraq and just “take the oil.” I said he sounded like the Corleone Family from The Godfather, you know, “Let’s just get it all while we got the muscle.” I said this man is peeling back the onion of White civility; and every level of that onion that he peels back, more and more of the nakedness of rancor and hate and bitterness is coming up out of the followers. This is one of the most interesting of all of the political presidential runs that I have had the blessing of seeing in my 83 years on this planet.
ANGELA YEE: I’ve seen Bernie Sanders say it’s like “choosing between the lesser of two evils.” You’re not a fan of Hillary Clinton either. So if it turns out to be a Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump, what do you think we need to do?
HMLF: You need to pray. Donald Trump is who he is—and that’s one thing that politicians are not. It’s all “game playing.” But with Mr. Trump, “what you see is just what you get.” He is not trying to be politically correct—he doesn’t care. When they say he’s not “presidential”: I asked myself what does it mean to be “presidential”? You wear a suit; you talk to the American people like you possess the character and the dignity of one who seeks the highest office in the land, and behind the door you’re the worst criminal on the planet, plotting the overthrow of nations and governments, and regime change, and sending drones to kill people you don’t like? That’s presidential. If that’s the kind of person you want, vote for Hillary, vote for Trump—and you go to hell with both of them.
As far as Mr. Sanders is concerned, he’s probably the most honest of all of them. But we have to be careful, because this is the most important election in the history of this country; because you’re not just voting for a president, you’re voting for the person who can take America totally down! America will never be great as she once was, again, but she can survive if she does the right thing. … None of them are saying the right thing to save America. She is in deep trouble. Hillary will take you there, Trump will take you there. … If Sanders does not get his way—he’s fighting against a system. He sounds good. The system is rotten to the core. That’s why every time we have had a presidential election where there is “White or Black,” you always have to choose between the lesser of two evils, so you either vote for “Satan” or the “Devil,” and you catch hell with either one. …
CHARLAMAGNE: A lot of brothers and sisters feel like they don’t want to vote this year because they feel like the system is out to get them anyway. What’s the point?
HMLF: That’s the thinking of the most enlightened, because the most enlightened know that the system is rotten. It’s been rotten for a long time. Can we get out of this system something good for us? We could, if we were united with an intelligent self-interest that we could push, we might be able to get something. But, America is out to destroy the little man—I’m talking about those in the highest places. Flint, Michigan [contaminated water supply] was not an accident, that’s by design. I just heard that some lead was coming into Newark into schools, and I asked the question, “Whose schools?” They said, “The Black and the Brown.” Is that an accident? I don’t think so. We are being designed to be destroyed—and unless we see that, and come together as a people under vicious attack we will suffer the consequences of evil that’s in high places. Listen to these words of Paul: “We war not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers, and the rulers of the darkness of this world and spiritual wickedness that’s in high places.” It’s in “high places” that the plot against Black and Brown, and poor White is going on; it’s spiritual wickedness that’s way up in the ruling classes of religious people who don’t want to see the little man rise. It’s the principalities and the powers. So unless we come together as a people and stop our foolish beefing among each other, sit down like intelligent men and women and settle the things that divide us from each other, then come together like a solid wall and we could make something happen.
God says, “Come out of her my people, that you be not partakers of her sins and her plagues, for her sins have reached unto heaven.” We don’t need the Democratic Party. We don’t need the Republican Party. We can get a little from both of them, but Elijah Muhammad said we need to form our own political machine.! A machine that works for the oppressed: The oppressed Black, Brown, Red, Yellow, White. Let’s come together and form our own party, and give the other parties hell—and then vette who we want, and take down these crooked rotten politicians that are in Congress, in the White House, and in the Supreme Court.
The Koreans that make their money in our community: If we have a Black bank, you’ll find they don’t deposit anything of what they take from us into a Black bank that would serve our community. They set up a bank in their own community. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, my Teacher, called people like this “Bloodsuckers of the poor.” You’ve got Blacks like that, who don’t give a damn. All they want is to make a dollar, and run. Run where? To another community, but not build a community in which we live. So yes, brother, it’s difficult to get a loan, but not for them. They go to their own bank where they put the money that they take from us.
Imagine, Charlamagne, $1.1 trillion comes through our hands this year. That makes us the 9th richest country in the world. Those that have less than $1.1 trillion, they’re building schools, hospitals, farms, factories; they’re doing something for themselves, as a nation. Here we are, nearly 50 million people, and we are here begging somebody else, “Can I have a job? Do you have something for me to do? Can you feed me? Will you educate me?” This is the crime, the ignorance of Black people. We have to erase the ignorance, and get us started doing something for ourselves.
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said it like this: He asked us to take a nickel a day, put it together. … Five cents a day, 35 cents a week, in a year is $18: if all of us did that—I mean the millions of us—in a treasury with somebody you can trust… Who do Black people trust enough? … People know the Minister. They may not agree with me, but they know I’m not selling them out. They know I’ll never violate my oath to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad to work night and day for the rise of my people. I’ve been at this for darn near 60 years; I’m too old now to do something different. You couldn’t get me to be corrupt; that’s an impossibility. So if you can trust me—and I offer my life, and will take the life of those who would take the money and run, or steal from us … We don’t have time to play with the destiny of a people who have suffered for 460 years.
There’s a documentary out. It’s called, Vaxxed: From Cover-up to Catastrophe (Vaxxedthemovie.com). There are scientists that worked for the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) that have “blown the whistle” and admitted that they were a part of creating genetically specific vaccines that do damage to Black boys—and that fulfills the scriptures. Pharaoh saw the Children of Israel multiplying, and he said: “Come, let us deal wisely with them lest they multiply, join onto an enemy, and come against us.” Well, what are you going to do, Pharaoh? “We’re gonna kill the boys and spare the female.” And right now, Black boys and Black men are dying at unprecedented rates, and our women’s population getting stronger and stronger. I went to the graduation the other night of my first great grandchild—he’s 21 or 22; and right at the graduation I looked, and 92 percent of those who graduated at the University of Illinois were females. Where can a Black female, who are now the lawyers, the engineers; they are the ones graduating with top degrees; where will they find in a Black male a counterpart that is equal to them? We are filling the jails, we are filling the prisons, we are filling the armed forces, but we are not filling schools. So we are ill-equipped to do anything to build our people, and that’s what we would call a conspiracy that has been planned for us. …
We’ve got to set up in our own community our scientists and scholars that can check what is going into our people. … This is the same man, General Jeffery Amherst was his name; a college is named after a murderer, who went to the Native people, telling them that, “All you need is this blanket, and it’ll keep you warm during the winter months.” But the blanket was filled with smallpox. And we wrapped ourselves in the blankets, and we wrapped ourselves in death. We’re too trusting of our enemies. Haven’t they shown us enough in 460 years that we ought to check them and what they give us out? That’s why they close trauma centers in the Black community, and force our children who are killing each other to go into hospitals where we are guinea pigs. We’ve really got to wake up now, because we are really living in the valley of the shadow of death, and it’s going to take all of us being alert.
And that’s one thing I find about The Breakfast Club: You all are alert Black men and women; you read, you study, you hear. Don’t be afraid to question!
ANGELA YEE: You’ve said some things about women, obviously throughout the course of your 60 years of us studying you, and one of those things is about how women dress, and how we present ourselves; and being virtuous, and not being stripped down and not distracting men. But some women would say, “Well listen, I should be able to dress however I want to dress. It shouldn’t matter what I have on, I should command that same type of respect.” And that is something that’s been going on—they had the “Slut Walk” that’s been going on in different countries and nations; and I would love to know what you have to say about that today.
HMLF: I would say to my dear sisters: Look, I’m in love with you. I love you like I love life itself. I respect and honor you because that’s the way I’ve been taught and trained, but my dear sisters, you have to learn how to respect yourself. These things that make you attractive to men, they are called in The Qur’an your “adornments.” Your breast adorns your body; the beauty of your hair is an adornment. … You are not just a woman, you are a sacred vessel.
I’m not trying to put our women on a pedestal that they don’t deserve to be on. No man is a “man” without a woman: It’s a woman that helps the man to be a man. A man that doesn’t have a woman doesn’t know if he is one (a “man”). What do I mean by that? A woman will test you to see if you are what you say you are. Any woman that you fall in love with: She loves you too, but she’s going to try you; that’s her nature. She has to know that she can depend on you; she has to know that you will stand up for her. She has to know that you will back up the children that she brings in the world for us.
Look at the movies about Jesus. You see women around Jesus: How did they dress? What do they look like around the master? Their hair is covered; you don’t see them with their breasts exposed, or the ornamental effect of their hips and buttocks. They’re covered around Jesus. Why? Mary Magdalene might have been uncovered when she met him, but after he got finished teaching her, she knew her value. Now as a woman: Yes, this is your body—you have a right to dress as you please. But you’ve got to think, “Who is our teacher and trainer?” We came up under our former slave masters … . If we’re a natural man, we’re attracted to a woman. You are our natural partner in the act of procreation. Now there’s a time and a place for everything, but when a fine-looking woman, with a fine-looking form walks down the street, a man could be working with a jackhammer, and when he spies that woman, he’ll watch her as she walks. What kind of thought comes up in your mind? You don’t say, “Oh, what a great creature.” Like a dog you may say, “Man, I’d sure like to have some of that!” That’s not what you want. … Do you know how many men that are out of work that just stand around on the corner just watching your daughters coming home from school? Today, with the hormonal things that they are putting in foods, these hormones, when you eat the meat, you’ll find a nine-year-old daughter with breasts bigger than her mother’s, hips wider than her mother’s—and men haven’t got anything to do but sit and watch you go and come from school. Some of them start plotting immediately: “How can I get that?” If you take a little time and watch forensics, and see what men, sick-minded men do … I don’t know whether it’s wise for women to feed the sickness that’s in the man.
CHARLAMAGNE: When you spoke about your experience on The Wheel, people called you “crazy,” but now Hillary Clinton is saying that she promises to reveal the truth about UFOs if she becomes president. What do you think about that?
HMLF: Jimmy Carter said the same thing. He saw The Wheels, and he said when he became president he was going to open it up. When Eisenhower was president, he sent somebody out there, to Nevada, to see what that was about, and they told Eisenhower that they were not going to open that up for him. He said, “You’re going to open it up for me”—he’ll bring the first army, and take it over. He threatened them. There’s something real in Area 51. Hillary Clinton knows about it. She’s been exposed [to information about UFOs by Laurance Rockefeller]; he befriended her. He became friends with the Clintons, and opened up his file on UFOs to Mr. and Mrs. Clinton. President Obama was giving out awards one day, and he said he was the first president to openly talk about Area 51 letting the American people know the reality of what’s above our heads. And so Farrakhan has been taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad about these things; they are very, very real! I’ve had an Experience with The Wheel—I know what I’m talking about. And that’s why I’m so bold. I don’t “talk” God, I am backed by God! If you want to kill me, I can’t stop you; help yourself—but you’ll die right afterwards. … I’m serious: God will take America down in 12 hours by the clock. You have no power with The God I serve. See if you can stop the tornadoes; they’re coming more and more, they’re like women dancing in long skirts—check that out. Rain coming like you’ve never seen it before: All of a sudden a flash flood, and people, you see their cars going down under water…. You’ve got hail coming out of the sky the size of, of a baseball; and soon, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad said, you’ll see them coming out of the sky like blocks of ice. You’ve got fire going on north of our border in Canada, 1,600-and-some-odd square miles burning. They’ve never seen a fire like that. You are dealing with a God and The Forces of Nature … . You can’t stop that.
Neither Bernie Sanders, Hillary, nor Trump can stop the Wrath of God that is coming down on America. After this broadcast, the weather will intensify. I am not before you of myself; I am a Warner from God to America and the nations of the Earth by God’s Permission. God is destroying America by degrees with The Forces of Nature, which you have no power against! … The Death Angel is in America as we speak—these natural disasters are going to increase. Hillary can’t stop it, Sanders can’t stop it, Trump can’t stop it. But you can do something that will cause God to give America a longer time to exist as a nation.
I am not crazy. I am not a man that hates this country in which I was born. I want to see you get past what you are facing. America is facing that which will destroy her as a nation and break her power completely.
You’ll never make America great again, Mr. Trump, but you can extend her time. What can you do? Mr. Sanders, as a Jewish man: What could Pharaoh do to extend his time, and stop the plagues from coming on Egypt? This is the modern “Egypt”, Mr. Sanders. Let the Black man go and give us justice, and these things that are whipping you today will start diminishing, and you will get a longer period of time. Hillary, you’re a strong woman, you’re an intelligent woman—you’re not a good woman. But if you want to do good, let the Black man go, and stop deceiving them, that you are really their “friend.” If you were their friend, why did you kill Muammar Gadhafi? Why did you destroy Libya and create the problem of refugees running out of North Africa into Europe? That’s your doing, Ms. Clinton. If you love Black people, why are you destroying Haiti? If you love Black people, why did you, Mr. Clinton, stop them from the rice that they were producing in Haiti to feed themselves and other Caribbean nations? You put the rice industry out of business; and now rice is coming from Arkansas, chicken coming from Arkansas, when it once was growing right there in Haiti. You’ve got to take responsibility for the hell that you’ve been giving to our people not only in America, but in Haiti and the Caribbean, and now in Africa. Mrs. Clinton, your hand is bloody… what will you do? You want to escape? Let the Black man go—stop lying to us that you love us. And if you really love us, let us go and give us some of this territory that we can call our own; and give us the billions of dollars that we can get started with land and with tractors and the things that will make us an independent nation. You could do that, if you would. You don’t have a lot of time. And if you think I’m crazy, keep going the way you’re going and watch what God does. … That’s the way I’d like to close my time on this wonderful Breakfast Club. Eat that, and get full! Thank you for listening.